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u do know that fear and hope has connections to Labour party it funny how you describe Islamophobia yet we have a Muslim member standing for us and as for there policy’s can u explain whats Islamophobia in regards to ukip policy’s as i have found none of this also in regards to old racism argument 1. immigration and race are two very different topics 2. when we are talking about open door immigration we are talking about Europe not that it matters but what is the dominate skin color in Europe white 3 in fact we are discriminating against nationality we need a point system like aus where the same rules apply to 4.in my eyes you sounded racist as you and people like you assume its about race its not its practicality all one thing i do agree on he is playing the blame game but not against immigrants like you suggest the politcal elite for being so utterly silly with there immigration policy and given away power from Westminster to Brussels without the people consent something thats none negotiable under e.u rule nothing is negotiable under e.u its run by people who dont care about me and you they want the European superstate dream and dont care how they get there and as for your comment about ukip voters being poor what a total assumption why are so many medium size business supporting ukip fed up of e.u red tape by any chance dont say we voted for this we never did common market nothing more of course its not the immigrants fault over wage compression its the lib.lab.con who seem so hell bent on us being in this anti democratic e.u supply and demand if there was a oversupply of apples what would happen the price would go down if there was a under supply the price would go up supply and demand this has a influence on anything including a work force the min wage is meant to be the living wage its not the current living age is £7.65 and £8.88 in London elites that UKIP’s economic policies support can u give more explanation there? he wants to set the top rate tax to 40% percent when currently its 45% this is to encourage richer people to set up business they also want the tax threshold to be higher then the current £10000 nothing is decided yet one thing i am in particular angry about 800000 jobs advertised to the e.u if there was a skill shortage fine but there’s not it makes no economic sense what so ever letting more people in then keeping the native out of work and when there is 2.5 million people unemployed and 800000 jobs are advertised to the e.u there is no matches if people say no or its jobs British wont do i simply will not believe them working in a zero hour fruit packing factory with many other people from the u.k u know them jobs that british wont do they jumped on a minority and made it out to be a whole working class what dont buy the propaganda this country is getting sold out did u now the bbc receive founding from the e.u ask them yourself under freedom of information act it would explain why they are so pro e.u and selective on there news

1, it is not Islamophobia when Anjem Choudery and his ilk can stand in the street and give hate sermons against the British and the west while our government and police watch and let it happen, it is a very real threat. 2, as regards immigration we should have stopped at one or 2 countries when we opened the doors under the Labour government. Good idea at the time but now its so out of control that it is mental! 3,wage compression (lower wages) is very real now that we have let in anyone from any EU country. I have seen it with my own eyes. UKIP want a more controlled immigration system, like Americas or Australias, but i don’t see or hear people like you calling THEM racists? 4, No, it is not the fault of the immigrants. If i were them then i would be running to the land of milk and honey too. Better wages, more workers rights, and a generous welfare system. No, Labour are to blame for starting this mess under Blair and Brown, and the Conservatives are equally to blame for letting it continue, and not standing up to Brussels and the EU. 5, you people calling others out of touch? So just HOW MANY politicians at the higher end of politics, let alone you Young Fabians, HAVE actually had a job in the real world? If we go to percentages, per party, then i will bet that UKIP will win that count as well?? The majority of you politicians are so out of touch and so removed from the average person on the street, and that is a problem that no amount of study can cure. Fact!

Absolutely no doubt that issues such as wage reduction are serious and important issues. The rich exploit migrants for cheap labour. I am not suggesting that concerns about things like this are invalid. I did note that in my opening paragraph.
What I am concerned about, however, is that the discourse today has gone from blaming a policy to blaming the migrants as individuals. It is not racist, of course, to address immigration. But the campaigning of UKIP as well as the scapegoating nature of the Conservative’s rhetoric is beyond justification. Just look at the Go Home vans or the vulgar billboards.

With issues such as wages (I can offer no knowledge on the brain drain, although I’d be inclined to agree that it may be hurting other nations), while I have no full proof plan on how to actually implement my idealism, a genuine social democratic alternative to politics should help fight this tide. Wages are abysmal at the bottom, across the board. We need politicians who can promise that legislation will guarantee that employers have to pay a fair wage. UKIP offer no such thing, and I simply do not think that if voters were truly thinking this through they would vote for them. I well and truly believe in a Living Wage, which is why I believe people should NOT be voting UKIP. The only reason they do, as I said, is that UKIP have fabricated a mystical ‘other’ in immigrants and the EU while actually endorsing policies that resemble Thatcherism. They are scapegoating their own policies and the people those policies are trying to defend; the 1%.

Well, you are still approaching this from the view that mass immigration is a good thing, and that people with concerns about it are just wrong. They just don’t realize how wrong they are. The problems with mass immigration are:

- It works to the advantage of a 1% that want’s cheaper high skill and low skill foreign labor, rather than pay better wages to native workers.
- It hides failures of the nations educational system in meeting the needs of economy from native born labor and talent.
- It brain-drains some of the poorest nations in the world of their desperately needed high skill workers. There is no doubt that African and South Asian doctors, for instance, are doing good work in nations like Britain. But their home countries have much, much worse shortages of doctors than Britain has.
- No one should have to cross oceans and continents to get something resembling a living wage. This emphasizes the need for international solidarity and action. Long term, the answer to billions in poverty is not for them to move somewhere else.
- Although controversial, we have to address the issue of whether indigenous and native populations globally, including white Europeans, have any claim or right to maintain a culturally and ethnically unique or particular character.
- There is some evidence that greater diversity can hurt social solidarity and community belonging. These are important to address.