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	<title>Comments on: Why we must stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our fellow Fabian</title>
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		<title>By: Fab 5: Friday 5 February 2010 &#124; The Young Fabians Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fab 5: Friday 5 February 2010 &#124; The Young Fabians Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Though Coward&#8217;s Flinch blog. Read Adam&#8217;s response here and Shamik&#8217;s original post here. Submit URL Link [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Though Coward&#8217;s Flinch blog. Read Adam&#8217;s response here and Shamik&#8217;s original post here. Submit URL Link [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Young Fabians and the new Just War &#171; Though Cowards Flinch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Fabians and the new Just War &#171; Though Cowards Flinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  February 5, 2010 Adam White Leave a comment Go to comments    I was quite perplexed to read an article from the Young Fabians the other day, which was supposed to outline the reasons fellow Fabians [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  February 5, 2010 Adam White Leave a comment Go to comments    I was quite perplexed to read an article from the Young Fabians the other day, which was supposed to outline the reasons fellow Fabians [...]</p>
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		<title>By: resistor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a matter of fact I&#039;m a Labour Party member. When I joined,  slime like you were in the Tory Party where you belong.

I also know a bit about the history of the Fabians. They&#039;ve always had apologists for imperialism and mass murder, you obviously fit in well with that tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact I&#8217;m a Labour Party member. When I joined,  slime like you were in the Tory Party where you belong.</p>
<p>I also know a bit about the history of the Fabians. They&#8217;ve always had apologists for imperialism and mass murder, you obviously fit in well with that tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamik Das</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamik Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I think it says more about us that the likes of you oppose us.

Run off back to Respect/Stop the War/SWP you clutz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I think it says more about us that the likes of you oppose us.</p>
<p>Run off back to Respect/Stop the War/SWP you clutz.</p>
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		<title>By: resistor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These facts are just part of what we know; the true nature of Iraq under Saddam, the real figure for casualties under Saddam, may never be known. What’s certain is that the figure is less than that of the past seven years.

LIE, over a million Iraqis have died from sanctions, invasion and occupation.

Finally, to the opponents of the war, I ask this:

• Had WMDs been discovered, would that have made the war legal, despite the lack of a second resolution?

There were no WMDs

• Had they been discovered, would the aftermath have been any less bloody?

I don&#039;t know, nor do you - stupid question

• If the UN had passed a second resolution, would that have made the aftermath any less bloody?

I don&#039;t know, nor do you - stupid question

• Had the aftermath not been as bloody, would the question of legality been so important?

Which universe does this scenario take place?

• If Britain had not joined the war, would America have gone ahead regardless, and would the resulting aftermath have been any different?

If I see a thug beating up a defenceless victim, should I join in?

Blair a fellow Fabian? Says everything about scum like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These facts are just part of what we know; the true nature of Iraq under Saddam, the real figure for casualties under Saddam, may never be known. What’s certain is that the figure is less than that of the past seven years.</p>
<p>LIE, over a million Iraqis have died from sanctions, invasion and occupation.</p>
<p>Finally, to the opponents of the war, I ask this:</p>
<p>• Had WMDs been discovered, would that have made the war legal, despite the lack of a second resolution?</p>
<p>There were no WMDs</p>
<p>• Had they been discovered, would the aftermath have been any less bloody?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, nor do you &#8211; stupid question</p>
<p>• If the UN had passed a second resolution, would that have made the aftermath any less bloody?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, nor do you &#8211; stupid question</p>
<p>• Had the aftermath not been as bloody, would the question of legality been so important?</p>
<p>Which universe does this scenario take place?</p>
<p>• If Britain had not joined the war, would America have gone ahead regardless, and would the resulting aftermath have been any different?</p>
<p>If I see a thug beating up a defenceless victim, should I join in?</p>
<p>Blair a fellow Fabian? Says everything about scum like you.</p>
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